Episode 3: Food: There's lots of it

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(I'm re-posting because it doesn't work under "reply".)

Is it not true that the smallest of seeds grow into the largest structures? Take for example the mustard seed (from the Bible which also grew to gigantic proportions). How about computers... It must have been said in the past "Ahh, nobody will ever be able to carry a supercomputer in their hands", but now we basically do.
What was the growth rates of these things? And what WILL be the growth rate of...
Solar? Yes, solar energy. It's growth rate has averaged about 33% and in 2012, was an astonishing 78%.
Granted, subsidies were needed to get it going, but now, the advanced machine automation needed is almost in place to keep it going, that is to make solar panels cheap enough to compete with fossil fuels.
So if we assume a much lower growth rate, such as just 22%, to make up for the eventual loss of subsidies, we still get a completely total global solar powered "everything" in about 40 years. In fact, since late 2012, cumulative global installed capacity was at just 90GW, the next year should see at least 1.22 x that, and so on, which adds up to 256,000GW in forty years, which when divide by 4 to make up for the less than ideal capacity factor, still provides 4 times current electrical ASSUMING only 33% efficiency in the energy storage scheme of using molten salts and an old steam generator.
TEN times current electrical, if something like the LiFePO4 battery is used (and also mass produced by machine for much cheaper). Oh, and there IS enough lithium such that just 1% extracted from the oceans would power some 150 billion Tesla kick ass electric cars (I imagine using 90% of that for solar storage)!

I believe that the phosphorous argument is also flawed because when we start to reach "peak", we will resort to more efficient ways such as hydroponics, etc.

The reason I say these things despite nuclear being FAR more energy dense is because the required infrastructure ensures jobs (and because soooo many people are afraid of proliferation, even though LFTR is less prone to such).
Approximately 400,000 square miles of solar installations (covering just less than 1% of the Earth's landspace) will guarantee extra time needed by humanity to adapt to a robotic and software powered world and the subsequent loss of most all jobs.
Perhaps, this kind of "easing transition" will better prepare humanity for the merge into a future where machines provide abundance via efficient extraction, processing and distribution of resources from an environmentally acceptable manner.

Posted by fireofenergy

Starvation is caused by poverty is caused by overpopulation.

Is it possible that the reason why a large amount of poverty exists in the first place is because there isn't enough work for an overpopulated, underdeveloped country? Maybe the country is too underdeveloped to create enough jobs for the entire population which in turn keeps the country underdeveloped. If there were less people, there would be enough jobs and less poverty and starvation, thus allowing the country to develop into something that could then sustain a higher population.

Just a thought. I could be way wrong.

Agriculture

The higher yielding crops that enable farmers to use less land still use as much water. Where is that going to come from? Farmers in India and elsewhere are already depleting thousand year old aquifers underground to keep up with production. They won't last forever. Then what?

Family planning

Those programs are in place to inform the uninformed about AIDS.

Inform people about aids?

AIDS is not the only STD (sexually transmitted disease) known to man. There are actually quite a number of these and many of them are just as dangerous.
While these programs do in fact inform people about AIDs, they do not help in stopping the spread of it or other STDs.
Oral contraceptives just prevent women from having babies and increases their risk for cancer and other terrible side effects. (one of the three german scientists who invented oral contraceptives admitted it and several studies can be found on this subject. Look it up) Anyway, these women, though unable to conceive, may still engage in sexual activity and may still transmit STDs.
Condoms on the other hand merely prevent genital contact. But the genitals are only one part of the lower body. There are still other parts of the lower body that can spread an STD (for those STDs that are transmitted through contact) like the hips, thighs, and areas near the groin/crotch/whatever you wanna call it.

Food: there's lots of it...

I wonder if the argument that the use of modern agriculture methods, whether in Africa or elsewhere, could be the solution to hunger takes into consideration the energy cost of modern agriculture methods and how unsustainable it may be should an energy crisis become a reality.

I also wonder what would the ramifications be of destroying Africa's natural ecosystem by converting all its land into agricultural farmland.

Think about it.

Food: there's lots of it...

I'd agree that the energy required to grow all the food, as well as power all of the world's devices, could be too much for the world to supply. Maybe that should be the subject of the next video: How to provide energy for the world. It may be another solvable problem, or it might be another big dilemma. However, the whole "ramifications of destroying Africa's natural ecosystem" is somewhat missing the point. What the video is trying to say is that the whole world could be fed by that amount of farming area. It's not saying that we should grow our food exclusively on the African savannah. If that area were to be spread out across the whole wide world, along with the living area mentioned in the first video (about the size of Texas), there would still be plenty of space for the world's natural ecosystems to thrive.

Energy isn't as big a problem as everyone thinks

The energy problem isn't that we are short on ways of producing it; it's that the obvious next step—towards a higher energy density—is unjustifiably associated in everyone's minds with the most terrible weapon we've ever produced.

By moving towards nuclear power, a lot of the issues of limited resources can be delayed for potentially "hundreds of thousands of years," according to Kirk Sorensen.
(http://bit.ly/aYwQMC)

HT3R reactor project in Texas, which is a joint project between the University of Texas system and the Los Alamos National Laboratory, offers potential solutions to a large number of problems, including an industrial-scale test of the creation of synthetic hydrocarbon fuels. According to their website: "Additionally, the excess high-temperature process heat from these reactors is sufficient to economically create hydrogen from water, synthetic hydrocarbon fuels from coal and long-chain hydrocarbons, plus desalinate brackish water."
(http://www.utpb.edu/research-grants/ht3r/)

According to Dr. Carlo Rubbia af CERN, one ton of Thorium (the fuel for the HT3R project above), "produces as much energy as 200 tonnes of uranium, or 3,500,000 tonnes of coal."
(http://bit.ly/aYwQMC again)

Again from Kirk Sorensen, "About 100 grams, or 8 tablespoons, of thorium could provide the energy used by an American during his or her lifetime."

See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium-based_nuclear_power#Possible_benefits

Another solution, too

(Going to try to post again)
Is it not true that the smallest of seeds grow into the largest structures? Take for example the mustard seed (from the Bible which also grew to gigantic proportions). How about computers... It must have been said in the past "Ahh, nobody will ever be able to carry a supercomputer in their hands", but now we basically do.
What was the growth rates of these things? And what WILL be the growth rate of...
Solar? Yes, solar energy. It's growth rate has averaged about 33% and in 2012, was an astonishing 78%.
Granted, subsidies were needed to get it going, but now, the advanced machine automation needed is almost in place to keep it going, that is to make solar panels cheap enough to compete with fossil fuels.
So if we assume a much lower growth rate, such as just 22%, to make up for the eventual loss of subsidies, we still get a completely total global solar powered "everything" in about 40 years. In fact, since late 2012, cumulative global installed capacity was at just 90GW, the next year should see at least 1.22 x that, and so on, which adds up to 256,000GW in forty years, which when divide by 4 to make up for the less than ideal capacity factor, still provides 4 times current electrical ASSUMING only 33% efficiency in the energy storage scheme of using molten salts and an old steam generator.
TEN times current electrical, if something like the LiFePO4 battery is used (and also mass produced by machine for much cheaper). Oh, and there IS enough lithium such that just 1% extracted from the oceans would power some 150 billion Tesla kick ass electric cars (I imagine using 90% of that for solar storage)!

I believe that the phosphorous argument is also flawed because when we start to reach "peak", we will resort to more efficient ways such as hydroponics, etc.

The reason I say these things despite nuclear being FAR more energy dense is because the required infrastructure ensures jobs (and because soooo many people are afraid of proliferation, even though LFTR is less prone to such).
Approximately 400,000 square miles of solar installations (covering just less than 1% of the Earth's landspace) will guarantee extra time needed by humanity to adapt to a robotic and software powered world and the subsequent loss of most all jobs.
Perhaps, this kind of "easing transition" will better prepare humanity for the merge into a future where machines provide abundance via efficient extraction, processing and distribution of resources from an environmentally acceptable manner.

Posted by fireofenergy

All true, but Sorensen is short-sighted

He forgets the one big detail: once resource aren't a constraint anymore (read, once people wake up, realize there is no energy or food crisis), human population will jump several notches (100+ billions) AND energy consumption per capita as well.

That implies that the problems will still arise far sooner than expected by Sorensen, although not earlier than another hundred years, time enough to solve the next riddle anyway.

Thorium reactors are an old idea and will probably make it to the commercial stage in the coming decades, a good local solution for a little while.

'the most terrible weapon ever produced.'

Nuclear power does currently seem like the best bet in terms of longevity, but if according to our glorious leaders 'rogue nations' like North Korea and Iran are able to use power plants to weaponize nuclear power, then in logical terms it'd be like giving every country nuclear capabilities.

Obviously that's a very pessimistic outlook on the potential consequences of promoting nuclear power globally, but even if each country agreed to use this source solely for civilian purposes, I get the feeling that certain countries would battle against its 'democratization', so as to maintain a geopolitical advantage...